Board Thread:Vs Thread/@comment-36965940-20190228213102/@comment-27123436-20190311222723


 * Attack Reflection: Alright, this one may work against the loli (at least initially, what he later does aren't even registered as 'attacks' as mentioned in the 'AP' section), as his attacks would be read as 'Physical', 'Psychological', 'Spiritual' and 'Conceptual', but that's not enough to warrant a win, specially when the loli has his own bullshit version in the form of SAVE and LOAD (that lacks filter).


 * Fate Manip: Alright. This one isn't going to be effective against the loli. Not only because the general abstract idea in itself (the pure idea / concept instead of the causal-based probable outcomes you see in quantum branches / timelines on the many-worlds interpretation or "buttefly effect") of a pre-existing course of events written down / hardwired onto reality / the world gets twisted and superseded passively via Determination and Killing Intent...

[DT~ K.I.: Selectively rejects changes made onto and generated by, the world, less akin to "pulling the strings" and more akin to climbing up a waterfall contrary to the water flow and against the wishes of gravity, getting wet with only the droplets of water containing the desired effect, usually for 'defensive' purposes in regards to Determination and for 'offensive' purposes regarding Killing Intent; should no droplets of water containing said desire exist, with no single molecular re-arranging of said droplets possibly matching the contents (basically, not existing at all / null), then the 'impossible' events turn up, which are overwhelminly difficult for reality / the world to properly 'read' the input, creating 'glitches.']

... but also the ones regarding Probability (now being of the quantum branches or timelines kind), creating what are known as 'phantoms' where said space of probability bleeds into the actual occupied space (and time; of any number of dimensions; of any alternate positions) which makes the past, present and future (whatever they may be) being undetermined despite it actually happening (for the perspective of the world AKA being a fact / truth)...

... and due to, again, 'Destiny' or 'Fate' being part of the Philosophy of the World and Worldly Laws, where even having all of reality / the world itself operating under Deterministism... would simply be rendered as an 'ITEM' via SAVE and LOAD, as invalid, as something of vague, something of trivial matter, or as a null due to what I previously said on the AP section...

... luckily enough for Goku, he also has very strong resistances agains fate manip and reality has been capped in a certain way that it won't be as scary either, so let's say both their fate manipulations cancel each other out! n.n


 * Sealing and BFR: No one has attempted to seal the loli away, though I'm not sure how effective would be anti-sealing / bfr resistence and anti-dimensional travel methods to seal, there are ways to prevent this from happening. So, there's a hit-or-miss factor to this. I may need my memory refreshed on the method of sealing Goku has because I have forgotten the specifics of it. The loli has the means of eventually busting his way out if the zone he was bfr / sealed to is considered a world on its own.


 * Hakai: As mentioned in the 'AP' sections, dimensionality and the properties of erasure are something the loli has stupidly complex methods of going around them. If you remove the loli from dimensionality, it would assign the property of being adimensional, but then, 'erasing' him from there could be interpreted in either being erased from dimensionality itself of being denied its adimensional properties, but that's not at all enough to get rid of him, I'm afraid. The Numidium's Zero-Sum that denies others of their True-Godly could to absolutely nothing against the loli, as we've concluded in the Discord. Not to mention he's perfectly fine as something that doesn't exist and exists simultaneously, dimensional or not. The paradoxical, contradicting properties can easily be patched up as well, so even if it works, he would come back from it, I mean, Goku can also come back from it, and I don't think Goku can resist a null-value erasure like the loli has (and can just as easily inflict)... or can he? owo


 * Precog and Info Analysis: Ooooh boy... There are many ways to tackle this one, but I'll start with the basics. Now, I already talked how messed up the loli's combat abilities are, notably from "Schrödinger's Powerlevel" in the 'AP' section and the many techniques in the 'Intelligence' section... You have someone whose entire moveset and power level is undetermined.

Goku could get the information about the loli's abilities, and even know his future and all... but one, it knows what it can and can't do, not what it could or could not do, so the data he recieves is in constant fluctuation (think about random battles in xenoverse with CACs... every couple of seconds the moveset the CACs have get randomized yet again, and you'll have to use scouter to see what new abilities they have). IF the analysis had the "could or couldn't do" in the mix... well, let's say that the amount of information being bombarded due to the absurd about of variations could induce headaches... and two, as I mentioned earlier... knowing about it would be akin to being fully aware that a speeding car is going after you, and that will only inform you about your impeding doom, unless Goku is able to sustain the sheer amount of abilities and react to them accordingly it would be a hard battle to analyse with the ability.

The second point I want to talk about is how the [CHECK] command basically tells you about the enemy much like this ability... and the loli can scribble over his own statistics... so, even if all of the above is no problem for Goku... you have someone who can just draw a ":3" face where his powers and stats should be-

So, for the moment, The Loli can pretty much prevent Goku from viewing his statistics, be it due to the nature of his battle style and / or the shenanigans that scribbling one's own statistics provide. Goku doesn't seem to have abilities that can prevent the analysis the loli himself can do with the [CHECK] command. Power-Null may not work because others who can shatter the commands weren't able to. Though it could perhaps hinder it to some extent, I suppose. Goku should have methods to counter the loli's probability / precognition shenanigans as well, so we're both good on that.
 * Conceptual Manip and Type 2 Abstract Existence Neg: Man, these have barely any use against the loli, who can take attacks that jeopardize the concept of his very own self like a regular punch to the face. Not to mention the abstract existence of a broken vessel goes way beyond type 2, since conceptuality is irrelevant and only the world has a use of it, and even then, it has great difficulty being aware of what the hell is even happening, with or without the reality cap.


 * Miracle CI, Resistances, Shenron Mode, Regen, Immortality, Acausality Negation, Toon Force, 4th Wall Breaking, Plot Destruction: They both counter the heck out of each other in a back-to-back fashion. The Loli has bs resistances, probability shenanigans, stupid immortality, reality warping based on his own perception that could be mistaken for toon force due to the dumb things that happens with it, too many acausalities and beat the shit out of the plot. So, they're even on that regard, it seems.