Thread:KingPin0422/@comment-5935499-20181027033512/@comment-5935499-20181027035739

"There's no such thing as an unbeatable character. Tier 0 is nonsensical and redundant. It's for boundless characters yet are questionably omnipotent. They cannot have weaknesses, yet we don't use omnipotence. They are no different than 1-As without weaknesses (from a universal fictional perspective, there's no difference other than 0s are above 1-As...but those 1-As have limitations)." ~Sera EX

"Even tier 0 characters are not beyond the system in itself, and a tier High 1-A in one franchise can have a more impressive definition than a tier 0 in another." ~Antvasima

"The issue is that it's a tier decided by relatives; it really isn't the ultimate culmination given that DarkLK's talked about how a High 1-A in one verse may as well be a 0 in another." ~Promestein

Even if High 1-A and 0 are yet to be removed, the fact is that they are subjective tiers. The problem with those is that because they are subjective, a tier 0 of one verse can be totally outmatched by a High 1-A (or even just a "regular" 1-A) from another verse.

Example: Kami Tenchi is established to transcend baseline 1-A characters to the same degree that they transcend 3-D humanity. This would give him one degree of qualitative superiority over baseline 1-A.

However, Umineko has a hierarchy where the very first level contains 1-A structures, and then the next layer up sees everything within that layer as mere fiction. This cycle of transcendence continues infinitely, and there's three "meta-layers" past this hierarchy. Kami Tenchi would be total fodder by this verse's standards.