Talk:Son Goku (Super Manga)/@comment-8213668-20171020093614/@comment-33408431-20171026194653

the punch produce the shockwave but the shockwave is weaker than the punch, try to punch the air in front of a vase and then try to punch the vase directly

that's wasn't my point

nope, in DBZ , Goku's ki can be felt even in the kaioshin realm and in two movie we see them shaking the univers and Gogeta even illuminate the macrocosm

from the manga, ; https://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/905859/859/118/imagevRu25.png , we clearly see the shockwave going and shaking everything , even earth

the scene is clearly made with the same intent as the anime scene, wich is non controled punch = shockwave that make the univers go bye bye